In recent days, several “twisted day-to-day” car owners have reported to their quality reports (https://www. Thepaper. Cn/consumerscomplaint. Jsp) that “p17f0 malfunctions” or “cvt” (non-very automatic speed transformer) tremors occur during normal travel, requiring the replacement of gearboxes. Reflecting the fact that the plant was given to the other side, they were pushed to the 4s store, but the 4s store asked the owner to replace the 10,000-dollar transformer, on the grounds that it exceeded the quality warranty。
4s store staff detected a p17f0 failure of the original vehicle using a machine. Interviewee for map
The owner believed that his own car was defective in quality and should not be held responsible on the grounds that he had exceeded the quality assurance period。
In a vehicle quality evaluation platform, since 2010, there have been 28 pages, 528 complaints about the malfunctioning of the east wind sun runner. The feedback was mostly “engine failure lights, speedbox crashes” “serious car vibrating” “facilating, staggering” “fibling, malfunctioning, malfunctioning, malfunctioning” and so on。
As a result of the insurance, most drivers had to solve the problem at their own expense。
On 4 august, the press provided feedback on the owner's questions to the east wind daily motor vehicle company, after which the staff member stated that the feedback would be provided, but no further response had been received as at the time of submission。
“they do this every time, and they never have the following.” the owner of the car, aliases。
Multiple owner vehicles “p17f0 failure”
The vehicle was suddenly lost in speed, causing ming to become cold and sweaty。
On 27 july this year, jun ming purchased a “east wind-ocean-free 2016” vehicle for nearly four years. In the course of its normal journey, the speed gauges were abnormal, with “frequent shifts between 2,500 and 1,000 turns, vehicle speed failure and subsequent engine failure lights”. The 4s store staff tested and found it to be a “p17f0 malfunction”, i. E., a “cvt (unexceptional automatic transformer) tremors”, requiring replacement of the gearbox。
The diagnosis of the japanese specialty shop showed that zhou yong's motorized car had malfunctioning electromagnetic valves. Interviewee for map
In communicating with a fellow vehicle with similar experience, it was clearly discovered that the speedbox had been abnormal at 50,000 kilometres of maintenance, but the 4s store did not inform him of the situation until this time, after a quality assurance period, it had to be replaced directly。
The staff at 4s either gave the two options to replace a “re-manufacturing” gearbox at around 12,000 or an original speedbox at around 30,000. The former was previously faulty but had been repaired, while the latter was from the original manufacturer, a completely new gearbox。
When the vehicles were purchased in 2016, they were regularly maintained at the 4s store, which he considered to be a quality defect in the vehicle itself. “there are also a few drivers who, like me, did not give a clear reason for their failure, and we just want an explanation.” currently, the original vehicle has not been replaced or repaired。
Like hara ming, shanghai's zhou yong and dalian's historic winning (alias)。
Since the failure of the speedbox for the “east wind sunless 2016 queen” vehicle purchased at the end of november 2019, zhou yong of shanghai began studying the speedbox for the east wind sunless car, and has now become a “car mechanic”。
In august 2016, zhou yong purchased a new car and after a three-year quality assurance period, the vehicle was travelling “at a very slow and powerless pace after giving oil”. As in the case of hara ming, 4s store staff detected a “p17f0 failure”, and the other party advised him to change the gearbox on the grounds that it had already been released. On this matter, zhou yong contacted the east wind daily passenger service several times to reflect the problem, but the other side has not been able to provide a solution。
Angry zhou yong sent his experience to the motor vehicle professional forum, and many carmates commented that car-loving problems also arose. Since then, zhou yong has published in the forum his own maintenance experience with the east wind's daily cvt7 and cvt8 (a car transformer)。
In june 2016, dalian's success reported that he had spent 150,000 yuan on a “east wind day 2016 quaker” and that on the afternoon of 30 july this year, when he was driving on the high-speed, the car had “suddenly lost power and finally stopped”. The 4s store staff measured the car's gearbox with a “p17f0 failure” and suggested that it be replaced directly。
According to the quaker maintenance manual provided to journalists by schÖun, the cvt gearbox is inspected every 10,000 kilometres or every year without maintenance in normal use. Shen told the journalists that no problems with the gearbox had been identified on previous occasions。
I can't help it. Schömper spent 10,000 dollars changing a gearbox。
According to a research paper on cvt's life in china information network, the main vehicles used in the current market are manual transformers and automatic transformers, with no-grade transformers. Cvt is one of the commonly used automatic transformers. Assuming that cars work six hours a day and 360 days a year, the final friction sheet has a working life of 22. 12 years and a wear and tear life of 16. 43 years。
Quarterbreaker group complaint
According to information from the east wind day office, quakers are a suv introduced by the east wind day motor vehicle company, the first generation of quakes was introduced to china in 2008 and the second generation of quakes were listed in 2015. As of 2018, the cumulative domestic sales of quilÉs amounted to 1 million。
On the one hand, there is growing sales volume, and on the other, there is an increasing number of complaints about speedbox failure。
“i already have more than 100 broken car owners in one of my micro-messages. Some of them were for three years and a few days or months, and problems arose.” zhou yong told the news。
Similarly, while several vehicle websites and forums were consulted and found to have the same problems as he had with the speedbox failure in the country, the number of carmates who had passed the quality assurance period was not small. 4s. The practice is consistent: it is recommended to replace the gearbox。
Journalists have joined a vehicle professional forum called “the daily cvt fault communication advocacy group”. There are already nearly 500 members of the group, and there are different car owners in the group every day who discuss problems related to the failure of the east wind-made car transmission van and solutions. In turn, the bulletin calls on the members of the group to move as many of the broken-down vehicles as possible in order to communicate and collectively defend their rights。
The journalist combed the pattern of vehicles in the group reflecting the problem of the gearbox, which involves a variety of types, such as east wind and sunset, quake and tianxi, in which many of the gearbox malfunctions occur “when driving suddenly lose power, cars often fail to speed, speed-scream in the gearbox”。
One of the car owners reflected in the group that his “2016 quaker” had been “screaming”, an issue that had resonated with many of the car owners, who had asked each other about the mileage and time of driving and sharing their own maintenance experience when the speedbox was out。
In a vehicle quality assessment platform, complaints about the failure of the `east wind day quaker' speedbox were searched for, with 28 pages and 528 results since 2010. The combo found that complaints from the 2016 quakers were more concentrated, with driving deadlines ranging from three to four years, and that feedback problems were mostly “engine failure lights, gearbox failure”, “speedbox vibrating severe body resonance”, “speedbox failure, no start”, “speedbox shake, fault code p17f0, etc。
On 29 july this year, one of the owners of the “east winds day 2016 2. 0l cvt elite quakers” complained through the platform that his car was regularly maintained at 4s, aggregating more than 30,000 kilometres。
In response to these complaints, the respondents to the post were mostly: the questions of client feedback were known and given high priority by the producers, and 4s shops and customers were arranged to meet. “the solution offered by 4s to the owner is to replace the gearbox.” one complained to the owner that most of the vehicles had to solve the problem at their own expense because of the insurance。
According to data from the chinese vehicle quality complaints network on the afternoon of 4 august, the number of complaints from the east wind for free daily hospitality was 99, ranked tenth, and the subject of the complaint was “voicebox tremors and failure lights”。
On the same day, the news provided feedback to the east wind daily motor vehicle company on the issues raised by several owners, after which the staff member stated that they would provide feedback, but no further response had been received as of the date of the submission。
“they do this every time, and there's never been one.” the owner of the car was clearly known。
